W.O.W. 8/29 & 9/2/12-Serendipity and the RenEx Event

Upon returning from Austin my work schedule was conducive to a 3 way split done with slightly higher frequency.  Here is how it went.

8/29- SuperSlow Systems Pulldown- Jrep halves

-MedX Chest Press

-Nautilus Pullover with SS retrofits

-MedX Row with SS fall-off cam

-Calf Raise on MedX Leg Press

9/2- Lumbar Extension on SS Pulldown

-MedX Leg Press

-SS Systems “Alligator” 4-way Neck

Although the frequency is higher, I am holding the volume to a level that should be manageable, and I am not using end-stop technique or deep inroad.

I am really looking forward to the RenEx seminar.  I am very interested to see what their experience has been with timed static contractions with graphic feedback.  I am interested in their results and if they feel this is a compliment to, or replacement for their dynamic equipment.  I suspect that it will be (at least for me) another tool in the box.  I am also interested to see who might show up.  RenEx has pissed off just about everyone in the HIT field and have been very open in their criticism of other equipment.  This is most likely an abysmal marketing strategy, but I am hopeful that it exerts creative pressure on themselves.  If they can be intellectually honest, drawing out detractors can serve to benefit all  of us.  Personally, I have always preferred a less aggressive approach with an “open source” orientation when it comes to innovation.  However, history shows that great innovation can come out of vicious rivalries.  How cool would it be if a bunch of the old SuperSlow Masters showed up?  How about Brian Johnston or Andrew Short?  I am very hopeful that Chuck Spencer will be there.  What if Rob Serraino showed up to share some of his incredible work.  Ken Hutchins has built an entire exercise philosophy on inroad theory…what if he is wrong?  Ryan Hall thinks he’s wrong.  Some of the best advances in human history have come from incorrect theories or no theory at all.  In his book The Rational Optimist Matt Ridley writes:

“…the four men who made the biggest advances in the steam engine- Thomas Newcomen, James Watt, Richard Trevithick and George Stephehenson-three were utterly ignorant of scientific theories, and historians disagree about whether the fourth, Watt, derived any influence from theory at all.  It was they who made possible the theories of the vacuum and the laws of thermodynamics, not vice versa.”

Mike Mentzer once referred to me as a “high intensity theorist”, which kind of points out how useless I have been in this process.  More of my theories have probably held back progress, than have advanced progress (if at all).  Even if I don’t get my wish of seeing even any of these folks show up, there is amazing serendipity that can occur when geeks get into a room together, or even when some geeks try to show off what they built.  Again, Matt Ridley speaks to that possibiltiy:

“Imagine yourself at the Vienna exhibition of 1873.  There is a stand exhibiting the work of the splendidly named semi-literate Belgian inventor Zenobe Theophile Gramme, and it is manned by his business partner, the equally euphonious French engineer Hippolyte Fontaine.  They are showing off the Gramme dynamo, the first electricity generator that can produce a smooth current, and a steady light, when set spinning by hand or a steam engine.”…”In the Vienna exhibition, one of the workman makes a careless mistake.  He connects the wires from the spinning dynamo accidentally to the spare dynamo that is there to provide a backup in case the first one fails.  The reserve dynamo immediately begins to spin all by itself, in effect it becomes a motor.  Fontaine’s mind starts spinning too.  He calls for the longest wire that can be found and connects the two dynamos by a wire that is 250 metres long.  The reserve dynamo springs to life as soon as it is connected.  Suddenly it became clear that electricity can transmit power over a distance far greater than belts, chains or cogs could.”

So here’s hoping that the RenEx convention fills their 50 slots, and that the do so with some people they have made enemies of.  Even if their advances lead into a blind alley, there is no telling what serendipity might produce.  At the very least I will get to hang out with some fellow geeks.

Post your WOW’s and your thoughts.

163 thoughts on “W.O.W. 8/29 & 9/2/12-Serendipity and the RenEx Event”

  1. @Marc

    “When is asking a question presumptuous?”

    When you ask it the way you did. Go back and read it for yourself. Not to mention, anyone with a dissenting opinion/experience is labeled “hostile”, “biased”, “farfetched”, “afraid”…yet the shit you spout off with is supposed to be taken as gospel. Remind me again, you aren’t an exercise scientist, or even a professional instructor of exercise…your expertise is pharmacology, right? (can you read the presumption in that sentence?)

    I have relayed my experiences on this board and Darden’s…you reject my experience and conclusions and opinions without consideration…you are not looking for a discussion…you don’t ask questions seeking answers…you are a classic thinks-he-knows-it-all. Enjoy your training.

  2. OK…to All,

    This is not what I want this to deteriorate into. I am not aware at all what Marc’s approach is or if he has an axe to grind. I am not sure if the discussion of the phosphagen pathway is tied to a particular protocol that is in counterdistinction to something I advocate or that is different than BBS.

    Therefore, let me ask explicitly and as an open invitation to Marc. What sort of protocol are you suggesting. Have you done it yourself. What has been your results and your experience.

    If you are suggesting a form of rest-pause training, I have experimented multiple times over the years, including a period of single rep training, but found the results somewhat lacking.

    But please, if you want to state explicitly what you are suggesting in terms of protocol and the rationale behind it, i would like to think this is a forum where we can do so.

    WRT static training, I am waiting to see the data RenEx has to present. I can say this…when I do a static movement as prescribed by RenEx and follow it immediately with a dynamic movement using 1/3 my normal resistance, it feels very hard…and it feels very hard throughout the full ROM, not just at the point where I carried out the static.

    I will post a new WOW tomorrow and hopefully we can poke our heads out of the rabbit hole for a while.

  3. Marc,

    A friendly question, Is English your first or second language?

    If it is second I think syntax may be a part of the issue here……

  4. @Brian F

    English is not my first language either but I find it hard to change the meaning of the following quote from Mark the pharmacist by changing the syntax or indeed by translating to any other language :)

    “Talking about aerobic endurance on a site where the mere mention of aerobics is looked down on seems ill advised, as few would understand.”

    Any way you syntax the above sentence translates as ” you are all close minded dumb asses”

    I don’t know about you but I call that presumptuous and rude

  5. A thank you to Doug for your constant input and for providing an open source for “peaceful discussion”. I have been training for over forty years and find this site to be quite informative. At 60 years young, I do prefer the BBS/SuperSlow style of training with more frequency than once a week. I appreciate this being a forum where dicussions are about learning rather than always being right.
    Be Well to All

  6. @ Doug

    ‘when I do a static movement as prescribed by RenEx and follow it immediately with a dynamic movement using 1/3 my normal resistance, it feels very hard…and it feels very hard throughout the full ROM, not just at the point where I carried out the static.’

    That is a point I had not yet considered and for my money is the best argument I had heard in favor of the protocol. IMO the implications for TSC are enormous.

  7. Hello there, i am not sure if Dr McGuff is going to answer me, and give me a feedback. If i get it, it will be the best thing happens to me for a long while.
    Because, i admire Dr McGuff, for sharing all his knowledge, and bcos everything make sense, as an old student of Bioquem at Birbeck College, London UK. I, somehow always had in mind many of his teaching and teories.
    Question: Well, i just would like to know your opinion of my trainning schedule.

    I traing each muscle every 12 days, but i do sessions , every four days. That is: Monday (chest, biceps) then Friday ( legs, shoulders, only lateral raises with machine) and then Tuesday (lats and triceps). So a gap of 4 days between sessions, and 12 days resting for each muscle.

    another issue worrying me is , what do you think of staying up late, going to bed around 03:00 am,,and getting up around 11:00 everyday? Will this bad habit affect me negatively?

    Youll make my day Dr McGuff if i get a replay from you.

    By the way, the Paleo diet, has worked for me great, in only 6 weeks, i had amazing results.

    Well, i wish to talk to you about so many things, but i understand u may have a family to attend and a job.
    Wish you the best,

    Angel (from spain)

  8. Angel,

    Your 3 way split over 12 days looks very good to me. If you look at my next post, you will see what I am doing is very similar.

    Your sleep pattern is not a good one. Every hour of sleep you get before midnight is probably twice as good as any hour of sleep you get after midnight. We evolved out of a circadian pattern determined by the rotation of our planet and our orbit around the sun.

    Terry C,

    Thanks for the props. It means a lot.


    Thanks for your order. I hope you find it helpful.

  9. Hey Doug

    I found a new tool to check analytics for Youtube videos today.

    I checked your 2010 speech (now at 173,000 views). It has approximately ~1,600 shares/likes on Facebook.

    I looked into this stat further … and I was surprised at what I found.

    Out of those 1,600 people who shared your video on Facebook alone, the total sum of their “Facebook friends” is just under 1,000,000.

    There are over 100,000 unique hits on your video, which means it’s safe to say you have, if only in a distant way, reached over 1 million people with that speech.

    In other words, 1 million + know someone who has seen that speech and is familiar with you/your work.

    Great job!

    Only another 6.5 billion to go 😉

    – Anthony

  10. Dulling the Axe!

    My idea came from a reference here…Timothy Ferriss…who has dealt with sprint coach Barry Ross. I really like Barry Ross’ protocol.

    So I studied his protocol for flaws and found few flaws if any!

    So I started with Woody resistance bands for 10 second isometric holds for the neck. I even did rotation resistance with the bands, which I did no like very much, but front, rear, and sides resistance bands worked great. The Max Contraction on the Nautilus leverage row/trap were equally good in the contracted position of the row and shrug on this machine. Awesome neck pump. I did multiple sets of iso holds, waiting until I felt ready for the next iso hold, generally 20-30 seconds.

    Further, I have done 2-5 reps on the Nautilus leverage leg press for some time now, and rested a good 30 seconds and then did more reps. Great results, as 540 pounds has been done for 3 reps. I have tried done in one…..and the strength gains were not the same as with low reps….not to mention being tired and sore for some time thereafter. You can titrate NTF sets to the level of growth needed. I think this is a fun and easy way to train…if you enjoy heavy weights. I also like high reps. Another story.

  11. to Dr Doug McGuff:

    Hello, Dr McGuff.

    As i predicted and as you said in several places. I am currently eating Twice a day, i just feel hungry Twice a day, with the paleo diet is difficult for me to eat more, bcos honestly, i dont feel hungry. Besides, i dont want to eat untill i really hear my stomack shouting to me.

    Question: Is it going to affect me on the development of muscle mass/size?

    Thanks for your replay,,i would appreciate very much your advise.


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